How Low Quality Or Spam Reader Comments Can Affect Ranking

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By Glenn Stok

It's important to moderate your comments to avoid self-promotional comments that can destroy your traffic.

Even just low quality comments or off-topic comments can pull down your ranking.

Once in a while I see comments in hubs that are used purely to post spam with self-promotional links to other sites.

Hubbers who leave the option open for anyone to post a comment without being moderated may be victimized by this practice.

I decided to disable comments for anyone who is not a registered Hubber. The following is only my opinion, but I wanted to share it with you.

Comments are part of your web page and can affect your Hub's ranking.

If someone places a link in your comments to a site that is known by Google to be low quality, it may negatively affect your hub's ranking.

Review your comments carefully and pay special attention to the backlinks. I noticed that I started to get some really short comments from people who are not Hubbers. Something silly like “Nice Hubs” with a link to a site selling something totally unrelated.

The default setting of the comments capsule allows anyone to comment and use a link to their website. If they were a registered Hubber then the link would go to their profile, which is fine. But unregistered readers can enter any URL they want. And they do this to get backlinks at your expense. The problem is that unregistered users can post self-promotional comments in your hubs and link to their site.

PageRank is a trademark of Google. Larry Page wrote about it while in Stanford University, who had patented the idea. Google paid Stanford in shares of stock for the exclusive rights to the PageRank algorithm, which Stanford later sold for $336 million. Info from Wikipedia.

Comments in hubs are not the place for advertising. We Hubbers are working hard enough to try and get a good PageRank and we can't afford to have someone else upset the balance.

Although outgoing links may not directly affect Google PageRank, more than two links to the same domain are against HP's rules. Links to well-known Web resources are exempt from this limitation.

HP uses the nofollow attribute on external links in comments. So I have to assume they don't count those against you. But those links still may be going to spam sites and promoting the person who posted a comment at your expense.



Beware The Spammers

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You need to check for backlinks in comments. Even when I disabled the comments from non-Hubbbers, I still got Spam in my comments. Spammers would sign up for a HubPages account and get their Spam into comments anyway.

Whenever I see a comment mentioning another product I follow the link to the profile and it usually turns out to be a Hubber who just signed up within a day or two and has no hubs. So I made my own policy that I will not allow comments that make unrelated recommendations or that have a link to an outside website.

In addition to that, HP clearly states in every comment capsule that "Comments are not for promoting your Hubs or other sites." So when I moderate my comments I deny any comments that do not follow this rule.

You may call this censoring. And I am against that. I am one who believes in free speech. But when it comes to advertising, especially if done in a sneaky way, I consider that stealing resources. So this falls into a completely different category than free speech. Wouldn't you agree?



How to Moderate Your Comments

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Figure 1
Figure 1

You can go to each Hub and check for new comments. But if you have your email settings set to notify you when you get a comment, this will be easy to monitor.

Go to your account page and click "Profile" then "Email Settings." Here you can review a number of options that you may wish to change from the default settings.

If you don't wish to receive email notification, you can verify if any comments are waiting for you to moderate by clicking to your home page. You do that by clicking the HubPages logo when you are logged in.

On your home page you will see a number next to the word "Comments" which is to the right of your avatar. When you click on “Comments” you will see a list of all the unmoderated comments.

Normally you will just have two choices as shown in Figure 1. You either Approve the comment or Deny it.

I noticed a few times already that HubPages does their own spam checking as I have received some comments that were automatically marked as spam by Hubpages. In that case you will see a button that says “Not Spam” (as shown in Figure 2 below) that you can click if you consider them wrong. But HubPages was right each time.

Another button is the “Delete Forever.” I click that after I click the “Deny” button or when it’s Spam. No need to keep it, I’m not going to change my mind. Are you?


Automatic Spam Detection

Figure 2 - Comment marked as Spam
Figure 2 - Comment marked as Spam



If you see a little arrow-icon next to the name like that in Figure 2 above, then you need to check it out. HP already anticipated that this is spam. That icon means that the comment was made by a non-hubber and they used a link to another website.

I usually click on these to see where they go. But be careful. It could be a malicious site that plants a virus on your computer. Make sure you have your anti-virus protection up to date before checking out any links.

I use Mozilla Firefox for my web browser, which blocks known malicious websites that plant a virus on your computer. I found a site like this already once from a posted comment. But Firefox blocked it with a warning. If your browser has this protection or if you have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection then you should be okay.

Figure 3 - Comment marked as Denied
Figure 3 - Comment marked as Denied

If HubPages didn't already mark a comment as spam and you want to deny it, click the “Deny” button (shown in Figure 1 above). Then the options change as in Figure 3 as shown here. You can change it back to “Approve” or you can report it to HP as Spam by clicking the Spam button.



Controlling Comments

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You can simplify the task of moderating comments to some degree. When in edit mode, the comments capsule has options you can select to control who can post comments. See Figure 4 below.

The extreme method is to put a check mark on the item that says “Only signed-in users may post comments” as shown below.

If you prefer to review new comments and approve them you can put a check mark in "Comments must be approved before they appear." But I suggest you do this only if you can keep up with moderating them in a timely manner.

You can go back and edit published Hubs if you need to change the comment settings. But make sure you don’t delete the comment capsule. Doing so will lose all your present comments. Just changing the settings and saving the modified capsule will not lose existing comments.


Figure 4 - Comment Settings in the Capsule
Figure 4 - Comment Settings in the Capsule

Global Comment Settings

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If you prefer to use the same settings for all your Hubs, you can specify that in the global settings in your account. Click to your account Hubs list , then click on "Comments" in the link list on the left. Then click "show settings" and you will see a page similar to the example in Figure 5 below.

Here you can decide if you want each option to be globally set (on or off) in all your Hubs, or if you want the individual Hubs to have their own configuration.

You might have special cases peculiar to the subject of a specific Hub that warrants using a different setting. But basically, as you can see in the example below, I've decided to have just one item always set globally... "Comments must be approved before they appear." The others I leave to set in each Hub. But whatever works best for you is fine.


Figure 5 - Global Comment Settings
Figure 5 - Global Comment Settings

Comments With Links – The Good, The Bad, And The Sneaky

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The Good

What if your reader simply wants to add value by linking to a resource in their comment?

I read in one of Google's Blogs that they increase your ranking a little if you have links to highly ranked pages on other sites. The reason for this is that you are adding value by giving your reader other resources that Google has determined to be of value.

But the Google blog went on to say that if you link to low quality pages then your ranking will be lowered somewhat.

So it’s important to check the site they are linking to. If it truly adds value and is not meant to be self-promotional, then you might want to leave it and approve the comment. But check first. Don’t take it for granted.


The Bad

There is another important thing to consider. And that’s the total number of outgoing links in your Hub.

According to HubPages’ rules, you can’t make a Hub overly promotional. They explain in the help section that including more than two links to any one domain can cause your Hub to be flagged as overly promotional.

But they also say "Links to well-known Web resources are exempt from this limitation." That coincides with the way Google treats external links. If you add value to pointing to a useful resource, then there is no problem with that.

So we have to be careful with links in comments. Approve comments or delete them using your own discretion. But check it out so you can make the right decision.

You don't need to feel guilty about it because HubPages has the statement right there in the comment capsule for your reader to see that says, "Comments are not for promoting Hubs or other sites."

If you find comments that link to their own Hubs, you have the right to deny it. They are stealing your resources. You might want to check out their status. If their Hub has a low score, then linking to low-quality content can pull down your own ranking, according to Google’s Blog. They say that ranking is affected by the rank of sites you link to.

There are many high quality writers on HubPages and their scores might be bad for the same reasons I talk about here, reasons that are not related to their own writing, but related to comments in their hubs.

Google does not like spam. If it's in the comments section, it's the same as being in your hub. Google considers it as spam and traffic to your hub will be affected by those comments. I have discovered an improvement in my Hub Scores when I removed comments that were spammy.


The Sneaky

I discovered a few comments from people who were not Hubbers had taken advantage of the backlink feature that HubPages allows for non-Hubbers leaving comments.

When they leave a comment they can enter a URL to make their name a hyperlink. If you click their name you’ll see it is a link to their website.

In some cases I saw that their website was a useless sales pitch site. Whenever I deleted those comments and I usually noticed after a week or so that the Hub Score would go higher.


The Conclusion

It was also confirmed by another Hubber who commented below about her positive results with getting more search engine traffic after removing comments with spam and links.

So it's confirmed that it pays to moderate the comments people leave in your Hubs. Consider it an important part of the business of writing.


Copyright © 2010 Glenn Stok



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What are your thoughts?

Pamela99 profile image

Pamela99 Level 7 Commenter 2 years ago

I usually approve all comments even if they are negative which is rare. I have only deleted one I remember that was selling something. Interesting hub.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 2 years ago

Pamela99, I also keep the negative comments. They help show a complete picture. I only delete spam. Not sure if I made that clear. Thanks for visiting.

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zzron 2 years ago

I found it is better to check the top 2 boxes on the comment capsule, that way anyone can post a comment but only you can approve it or not, plus you will get an email saying you have a comment. I just look at the comment and approve or not. Thanks for the info.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks zzron for that additional info. That is a good alternative.

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SEO IT! Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

I've been keeping my comments open because I keep hoping friends and family will read my hubs and comment. I have a feeling that isn't going to happen and I've been patient enough. You're right. It is easier to block the outsiders from commenting than it is to keep going through and deleting, especially when you aren't going to be around for a while.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 2 years ago

SEO IT!, It's a funny thing, but I noticed it too. Friends and family don't read our hubs. I have a link at the bottom of all my emails. Business clients click and read my hubs out of curiosity and to know me better. But friends think they know me already I guess. If you figure that out, let me know.

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Maya Pillai 2010 2 years ago

Hi Glenn, Looks like i need to learn a lot from you.

I am a bit saturated. But thanks for the valueable information. I am bookmarking you pages. Thanks for this article. I will change the settings of the comments.

One good thing is i am getting my basics cleared before proceeding.

Thanks

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 2 years ago

Maya Pillai 2010, thanks for spending time with my hub and welcome to HubPages.

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Website Examiner Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

How very right you are about those external links. Promotion and malware isn't the only problem. This week, I had someone - presumably a Hubber acting with ulterior motives - post as unregistered, providing an external link to a reputable literary critique website to mask their real identity and intentions. The possibilities for abuse are endless.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 2 years ago

Website Examiner, thank you for that additional information. Many Hubbers don't recognize how many ways spammers can abuse us if we are not mindful of it.

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prettydarkhorse Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

thank you, these are good information, Maita

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4FoodSafety Level 2 Commenter 24 months ago

Glenn,

I learned so much! Excellent! I didn't know about link farms. I will have to monitor my comments better and not allow the links - excellent Hub - off to review comments received.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 24 months ago

4FoodSafety, Thanks for your feedback.

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TINA V 23 months ago

In my case, I allow non-hubbers to write their comments, but I do check the "comments must be approved before they appear." In this way, I get the chance to read it first before others can see it. I can also deny it if it is a spam. But I agree with you that everybody should be extra careful.

This is an informative hub. Have a great week!

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 23 months ago

Tina, I started doing that way myself on new hubs. As long as we can approve the comments it is safe. Thanks for your comments.

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tonymac04 23 months ago

Very useful information. Thanks I will have to look at this again to really understand it all!

Love and peace

Tony

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 23 months ago

Tony, Thanks for visiting.

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Springboard Level 5 Commenter 21 months ago

Lately I've been seeing more outside commenters, and that means I've also seen a few more "spam" comments which are clearly so. When all I see is something like, say one I saw today actually, that simply said "I love Islam," in my hub "The Mosque Is Not About Religious Freedom," and provided a link to a blog, I knew three things. One, the commenter did not read the hub. Two, the commenter was not interested in the hub. And three, the commenter simply wanted an opportunity to promote his blog.

I'll be keeping a closer eye out.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 21 months ago

Springboard, Yes indeed. That's why we need to moderate our comments. Thanks for stopping by.

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RTalloni Level 8 Commenter 12 months ago

Thanks for this helpful hub. I think I understand more than I did, even though I still have so much to learn. Good posts are helping along the way. Voted up.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 12 months ago

RTalloni, You're not the only one. I'm learning something new every day. :-) Thanks for the vote up.

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Rebecca E. 8 months ago

This is so true, and I find that with the global setting this will work in people''s best interest, espeically if youare oging to be away from hubpages for a while.

I want to ask what abot hubber with referral links? I tend to delte the comment, but redo under my own name minus teh referral link to an other site... is that some thing you wold do if the comment was good?

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 8 months ago via iphone

Rebecca, I would not bother to redo the comment. HP makes the rules of commenting clear right under the comment box. So if someone doesn't follow the rules, why waste your own time to correct it. I just delete those comments and move on to the next. Thanks for stopping by.

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Rebecca E. 8 months ago

Glenn-- come to think of it now you have an excellent point, in fact now I can make certain my comments are nto shown or are moderated this is a much beter way to go. You've shown me the light!

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tirelesstraveler Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

I have only had one weird post. I think that person must have read my hub while on a binge. It was obvious that they read the hub, but the reply was incoherent. I am still not sure whether or not to allow only hubbers to post. I have read forums which promotes opening posts to everyone.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 7 months ago

tirelesstraveler, That's really a decision you personally need to make. If it helps any, I use a different criteria based on the subject of the hub I write. If it's more related to HubPages I might just allow signed in users, if it deals with a social issue, I sometimes allow anyone to post. But in both cases I moderate the comment. I've had comments from Hubbers who just signed up for spamming. So it all needs to be moderated anyway.

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Rebecca E. 7 months ago

Glenn-- here's something to note: I went back to all of my older hubs-- the ones where I had let comments be comments ect, and cleared a lot of spam out. Now, I am not sure on your view, but I'll ask it =) After I had gone and deleted these link/spam/linkbait comments, not only did the hubscores go up but-- lo and behold these hubs got more search engine traffic.

So do you think it is worth going back (as I do) and deleting such comments?

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 7 months ago

Rebecca, Yes indeed. Delete any comments that are spam related. I have discovered the same thing. Isn't it wonderful that you can get more traffic just by deleting nasty comments? Thanks to you I just noticed that this hub needed updating to include the new global settings, as well as more elaboration on how Google Reacts. I just added that at the end. Take a peek. It's always a pleasure to have you stop by.

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Rebecca E. 7 months ago

Glenn-- one other thing- I also have made certain that older hubs comments were not "copied" comments-- you know the ones-- read teh three comments above and paste them on to make it look as if it were a comment. That worked badly for me as well. That needed to go-- thanks for teh extra bit. I think it's a big help. Not only that but it improved my crawl rate.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 7 months ago

Rebecca - Wow, looks like you stumbled upon something. I can understand how that can also hurt ranking. Repeated sections of text can look like keyword stuffing. In comments or anywhere. Thanks for that extra info.

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HikeGuy Level 4 Commenter 7 months ago

I enjoyed your detailed hub. I don't have many hubs and have only deleted one comment -- someone posted a throw-away remark and a link to her own site on one of my first hubs. I deleted it without comment. I agree -- the HP policy on that is posted right on the page, so if people don't respect the rule, I'm fine with nixing their comment. Most of the time it's a pleasure to read comments, so I'm glad there are options for filtering and denying so we can protect our reputations.

I'm glad you included the section on Google's view. A site I publish on for upfront pay requires multiple authoritative links -- no doubt in part to increase page ranking. Thanks for your helpful work and for keeping this updated.

-- Trent

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 7 months ago

HikeGuy - Thanks for that info on what you did about it and how you feel about nixing comments when necessary. And thanks for noticing that I added a section. I always try to keep my hubs up to date whenever new information becomes available. Thanks for stopping by.

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Moon Daisy Level 5 Commenter 7 months ago

Great hub, very interesting to know these things, thanks.

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Injured lamb Level 5 Commenter 6 months ago

Appreciate your sharing much Glenn, and thanks to the HP's comment setting that allows us to moderate the comments whether to approve or deny to avoid the spam issue...thanks for this useful hub of yours.

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DIYweddingplanner Level 4 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi Glenn,

Even though this hub isn't new, I found it while doing some research since I seem to have picked up a hater who is not from the hubpages community. Even though I delete their comments, they persist. I hate to keep non-HP folks from commenting, because of my niche, but it's kind of annoying. You can't get much more harmless than a wedding planner, but this person seems to be singling me out for harassment, for whatever reason. I guess I'll just continue hitting the delete button. Good information, thanks.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 4 months ago

DIYweddingplanner, Instead of deleting his or her comments, just deny them so they don't appear. Then compare to see if they are all from the same IP address.

If they are, and if this person is harassing other Hubers too, maybe HP might feel inclined to block that IP address. Once you have saved a few of those comments as "denied" status, you can notify HP about it.

The reason why I say to keep them as denied is so that HP can look at your Hub and see the IP addresses of the sender. If you delete them, there won't be anything for HP to see. Let me know how this turns out.

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homesteadbound Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Another great hub, Glenn! I have family that have registered and occasionally visit. And the only comments I have had to delete with links out were from other hubbers. And approving and answering comments is a time consuming task. This hub was very well laid out! Thanks for the info!

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DIYweddingplanner Level 4 Commenter 4 months ago

Didn't think of that, Glenn. If it persists, I most definitely will. Thanks.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 3 months ago

homesteadbound ~ Thanks for your informative comment. It looks like we all have to do that at times.

DIYweddingplanner ~ You're welcome. Thanks for stopping by.

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Rebecca E. 3 months ago

Glenn- I do come back to this hub on occasion, but I think that the one thing I have noticed that now that I've had moderate comments on for a while is this- while I don't get as many comments (such as great hub!) I do get more insightful comments from others. I have noticed a huge drop in spam like comments, but it took about 3 months of moderation for that to drop. I beleive that Google seems to like me better and yes, I did need to go through most of my hubs to get rid of some of the less "bad" comments (the ones where it wasn't a link type but rather I need a link to my profile type) so I don't know if it makes a difference, but I did see that.

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 3 months ago

Rebecca, Yes, I have been getting much more Google traffic ever since I've put more attention to old Hubs rather than just writing new hubs. Like you, I have focused on removing comments that just don't add any value. I agree with you that Google seems to like that. Thanks for stopping by again. Good to see you.

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WD Curry 111 Level 8 Commenter 3 weeks ago

"In some cases I saw that their website was a useless sales pitch site."

Some cases? Usually.

You are full of good stuff, where have you been all my hub life?

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Glenn Stok Hub Author 3 weeks ago

WD Curry, Be careful with checking those out. Some sites install spyware on your computer without you knowing it. I never click those links. I just delete the comment. Make sure your anti-virus and anti-spyware is up to date. Thanks for your pleasant comment.

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WD Curry 111 Level 8 Commenter 3 weeks ago

It goes on and on, doesn't it? I might have to go back to sending smoke signals.

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